Hot take: post-apocalyptic fiction is so popular because people desperately want to live lives that aren't yoked by capitalism, but are unable to even conceive of such a thing happening without the world ending first

@ELJ1 It's! Easier! To! Imagine! The! End! Of! The! World! Than! The! End! Of! Capitalism!

Deadass, if there was one book I could force everyone in America to read at age 14, it would be Capitalist Realism

@ELJ1 @garfiald Agree, but it needs to be rewritten or supplemented with more recent works to not ever become a fetishized "classic". ☝️🤓

@ELJ1 "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism." -- some cool philosopher whose name I can't recall

@toilet @ELJ1 Thanks! I knew I heard it from Žižek, but I couldn't remember whom he was quoting.

@ELJ1 Capitalism sows the seeds of its own destruction, but plans to take humanity with it.

On a related note: cyberpunk still feels fresh after 30+ years because we've been locked in the same neoliberal bubble since Reagan

I have a tshirt on me right now which could basically be the header piture of your toot.

@ELJ1 You ever read Walkaway by Cory Doctorow? Not post-apocalyptic or really even dystopian, he actually describes it as utopian, but about about people living lives not yoked by capitalism.

Deadass walkaway is like one of my favorite books

@ELJ1 even hotter take: post-apocalyptic fiction is so popular because it's the "when government does things it's socialism" meme taken to it's natural conclusion, a society where trust is impossible and doing things as a group means you will eventually become evil to survive.

@ELJ1 Incomplete. Post-apocalyptic fiction implies that nothing but sheer, animal survival matters. Capitalism falls by the wayside, but so do social mores, political systems, philosophy and anything else that we find complex. It's a regression to a mentally simple life: kill or be killed.


This echoes the recent Methods Devour Themselves episode by Rev Left Radio, if you haven't listened yet check it out. Fiction under ImperialistCapitalism in a very deep but accessible way with many perspectives.

@ELJ1 that's one of the things I loved about the Glass and Gardens: solarpunk summers, collection of stories. It offered positive futures, including 'after the crash'.

@ELJ1 because the world has to end first. The system and the systems that sustain it must collapse and when they do, everything else will be brought down with them. And then together we build something better and new.

@ELJ1 we can't continue to stop short of destruction out of fear.

I can't believe what I am reading.
Do you people really watch these movies or just admire your reflections on your tv screens?
Almost always, the post apocalyptic world is a hard core capitalist world (aka fascist),
without the face lift of goebbelism (aka advertisement).
Because science fiction, at least the good stuff, is a metaphor of now.
As for the "end of the world" repetive fashion, it is just an expression of fatalism.
Since they expect capitalism to die. Which it won't, but rather try to transform itself into outright fascism - the new middle ages.
Expecting capitalism to die, thus avoiding the responsibility, efforts, and risks, of actively confronting and killing the monster.
Or worse, serving the monster, while "excusing" yourself by a "it will die soon".

@ELJ1 Also, writers like Todd Mitchell says the rise of post-apocalyptic genre in YA novels is a response to a serious social anxiety. Readers know at an unconscious level that we are screwing the pooch (pollution, over-consumption, etc), leading to climate change, greater social inequality and resulting civil unrest. Such readers are not as invested in the status quo, and angry that they're inheriting a giant pile of shit on a platter.

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